Talk:Stephen Pearl Andrews

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WikiProject Biography Assessment

The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. -- Yamara 15:44, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Then fix it

The link to Modern Times goes to Chaplin's movie.

Pantarchy and Universology

I've started to expand the article on pantarchy. The universology article could also use some clarification. Several of Andrews' major work are now online at Google Books for those brave, or foolhardy, enough to wade in. Libertatia 19:21, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Wage Theory

All that stuff about "wage theory", those supposed quotes, they're all bullshit. Here's the text cited, none of that stuff is there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.83.209.67 (talk) 00:47, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Totally agree with you. 93.45.229.98 (talk) 13:53, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

Biographical source

Jeff Riggenbach's LvMI article is one of the primary sources for biographical information on Stephen Pearl Andrews, and I'm not sure it fits Wiki:RS criteria. It's not third-party, but rather a libertarian writing sympathetically about an anarchist on a non peer-reviewed libertarian website. I think we should structure the biographical information around a better RS, like the Texas State Historical Association's entry [1] on Andrews, or something else. AttackTheRivers (talk) 03:20, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Factual accuracy disputed

Many things written are not supported by the sources or differ greatly with various biographies (e.g. one of the best known "the Pantarch" by Madeleine B. Stern). 93.45.229.98 (talk) 13:44, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

For example: "author of several books on the labor movement and individualist anarchism". What would these works be? 93.45.229.98 (talk) 13:51, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

What exactly isn't supported by the sources? If the issue is that unsourced authorship claim, it can be modified or removed. czar 10:10, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

@Czar The sources you refer to may not be reliable (e.g., Mises Institute). The presence of the template was legitimate. The part about "wage theory" is original research. Reading the standard biography (Madeleine B. Stern's) it is evident that the subject of the article proposed his own specific philosophy (the pantarchy). 93.38.68.234 (talk) 20:50, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

It's more helpful to tag individual sources rather than the whole article. Yes, I agree that the Mises source should be removed (WP:MISES). Are you contesting any others? czar 22:13, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

@Czar Per WP:ATTRIBUTION and WP:WIKIVOICE, it should be clarified that "libertarian socialist" and, if a reliable source is available, "individualist anarchist" are labels that were applied to him retrospectively by others.

The lead should include only non-controversial information, such as his roles as an abolitionist, linguist, social reformer and writer.

In Stern's biography, it is mentioned only that he influenced the Tuckerian thought. 93.38.68.234 (talk) 23:10, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Please feel free to make those edits directly czar 00:06, 9 August 2024 (UTC)